Klovis' redpills 2

Verrückte Stille, [04.04.20 12:03]

The abortion debate is the perfect example of a dilemma, in my opinion.

Firstly we have to deal with the ethical notion of killing a living being; namely the fœtus, because of religious / metaphysical repercussions and so on.



But then you have another problem of considerable implications: the psychological development of a child is hugely impacted by the 9 months he/she spent in gestation. Many research point to the importance of the mother's attitude and mental state during this period. If she rejects the baby, the risk of having an unstable and psychologically distressed adult is big.

Also, if you give birth to a baby that you didn't plan to have in a way or another, (in the case of rape, or just unplanned pregnancy like it happens sometimes within normal couples), the mother will not be able to raise him properly and there are high chances of them being subject to neglect, abuse (intentional or not), and a multitude of other problems.

This would be highly bad for society because it would bring forth a generation of delinquents and deranged people, or simply good individuals who suffer so much they are unable to function normally in society, so they don't pose a threat to society, but they do to themselves.









KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 12:07]

[In reply to Jorge Martínez]

I know man kek, but some people bring this fact as a real fact, not just a meme.



About your point on eugenics : I strongly agree with you on the end, but not on the mean.



Natural selection implies that we need to make a selection of the fittest individual. In nature, this selection is... natural.



In civilisation, this selection must be artificially made. On this we agree.



But here come the two options :



- this selection could be made through genetical modification and science (scientific eugenism)



- or this selection could be made through social values and social organisation (social eugenism)



I think social eugenism is far more better and appropriate. In a well ordened society, there is eugenism by definition : there is no welfare state for dumb persons or criminal (or it is conditioned by certains factors), the state and social values encourage large families for decent people, women are encouraged to make a good selection of their husband based on sane hypergamy factors. Schools encourage hygiene and sports, skilled people are encouraged to found family, etc etc...



So in other words, you can reach a quasi identical stage of eugenism by just organising society properly, and whithout having to need science and genome modification or life manipulation.



A sane society is eugenistic by nature. That's the reason why it stays sane over ages. It was the case for decades. Christian societies were eugenistic, by definition. Because when a society is founded on efforts, virtues and elevation, it's eugenistic in it's core.



I think even @Despertarferro will agree with that vision.



Jorge Martínez, [04.04.20 12:55]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Good classification, but then you could distinguish 2 types of scientific eugenics: purge and gene editing. And if you want to go to another axis, you could go to (again) medical, but gene editing, and let's call it aesthetic.



Examples:

-Ending the life of a baby because it carries an incurable disease that will make him die at 2 years old

-Selecting egg/sperm of carrier parents to make fetuses that don't carry the disease. The (current) procedure needs to have several fetuses, which some of them will be inviable

-Editing the genome of egg/sperm to eliminate the disease

-Selecting egg/sperm for higher potential desirable traits, objective or subjective (stronger/more intelligent/looks/etc)

-Editing egg/sperm to have traits not present originally in its dna (other eye color/lactose tolerance/others)

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Victor Von Doom🇨🇵, [04.04.20 16:08]

Greta's parents are antifa members, and Antifa, who are sponsored by Georges Soros (jew)

Bolchevik leadere were all jews, who changed their names for the Holomodor. Trotsky created words such as "racist" and "antisemite", for the occasion, and deemed those are crimes, punisheable by death, or gulag.

John Sturgis offered his services to Israel, and travelled to Cuba (during his presence, the local president got assassinated, and Che Guevara began his insurrection)

Again, i do believe that not all jews are bad people. There are decent famillies who just want to go on with their lives. But we all wish we could do so.



Anatolii Parkhomchuk, [04.04.20 16:09]

[In reply to Victor Von Doom🇨🇵]

Wow. Recognition of Holodomor in western society. Thank you so much🙈



Victor Von Doom🇨🇵, [04.04.20 16:11]

[In reply to Pierre Biret]

I'll go on and repeat myself. Stephen Sweig tried to warn us about the NWO, and got silenced.





Arus, [04.04.20 16:14]

Well, I think, I understand u well. My grandma's family was jewish and live in USSR (so I'm a jew in the Halakha, but I'm self-identificate myself as russian). When western guys says about so much jews on the left, u can say that not all jews is like that, and u will be  right.  But the problem is that jews that live in Western Countries, doesn't affiliate themselves with Western culture, so they are susceptible to many anti-Western ideologies, like Marxism.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WGhdFaxTKY



https://mobile.twitter.com/childofeurope/status/1226837325080121345



Israel gives money to Migrants to move to Libya and then to Europe



Victor Von Doom🇨🇵, [04.04.20 16:18]

NGOs are sponsored by jews. And they are the ones who bring all incompatible "refugés" to the west, and causing our nations' declines. I did say "jews" as "lobbies", not the country itself. And the cabal is also based among jews, mostly finance leaders.



Pierre Biret, [04.04.20 16:20]

>Jews try to conquer the middle east

>war in muslim countries

>they flee war

>Israel pushes them to Europe

>"It's not Israel goyim !!!"





Victor Von Doom🇨🇵, [04.04.20 16:24]

Gabriel take a look at Europa the last battle. You'll understand our way of thinking.



Pierre Biret, [04.04.20 16:24]

I send him 2 links showing the active role Israel and jews have in European migration and suddenly I'm a hateful goy



https://t.me/c/1173772885/96845

Jew admits Jewish subversion of Western countries





'Islamization of Europe a good thing'

Rabbi Baruch Efrati believes Jews should 'rejoice at the fact that Europe is paying for what it did to us for hundreds of years by losing its identity.' He praises I

https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4299673,00.html



























































[Forwarded from Vinnie Sullivan]

[ Video ]

We have come so far in the last few years together but have so far to go in the years to come,



We have seen citizens rise to position of prominence, we have seen average people showing higher standards of nationalism & patriotism than government officials of today ever could.



We have taken chunks out of each other & watched others do the same.

Many have witnessed/experienced all from incarcerations to serious violence & still maintain their love and determination for these green & pleasant lands and our neighbouring western allies.



The question is after all we have seen & learnt where do we go from here.

The powers that be are forever working hard while many of us are still attached to feeding them & plastic grass root celebrity agendas that are feeding the monster under the stairs.



The monster wants everything you ever loved & is showing itself more than ever, now is the time to ask yourself do you starve it or carry on fuelling its growth.



We are the white elephants & we will survive #thinkforyourself

https://t.me/c/1173772885/96857 (GD)

Vinnie Sullivan





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Einherjar, [04.04.20 13:44]

[Forwarded from Josef Bosch’s Hate Hut]

Quick reminder: all of the outcasts and dissidents and social heretics and political untouchables and racial apostates... they got coronavirus right. Many of these people—from their tiny hidey holes on the margins of the internet—sounded the alarm in early February. Or even sooner.



Meanwhile, the mainstream weren’t touching the story for fear of being seen as racist.  For fear of sparking panic. For fear of tanking an economy.  Whatever.



Then, we have a third group, the wholly indefensible “fake and gay” squad. The group whose brains are rotted through with conspiracy and speculation and anger and political impotence. They should’ve known better... they were camped out on the margins of polite society, surround by men who DID know better. Men who tried and tried and tried to reel them in, tried to salvage what was left of their fake-and-gay souls. But they didn’t listen! The fake-and-gay gang traded what was true and righteous for what was unique and loud and attention grabbing and contrarian. They chased hot takes down rabbit hole after rabbit hole after rabbit hole. While real people, good people, white people—suffered and struggled and lost jobs and their savings and their lives.



Taking a position contrary to the narrative EVERY SINGLE TIME isn’t what makes you a dissident. Sometimes, on occasion, believe it or not... the story is real. And this time, in large measure, it WAS real.



You can’t be here if you are incapable of soberly discerning what’s true and what isn’t true. You have to be stable. You have to be clear-eyed and thoughtful and grounded. I’m sorry, that’s just how it has to be.



The stakes are too fucking high now. Good men have no choice but to be here—they’ve been doxxed or voluntarily unmasked in order to work for the cause of our people’s survival. This is all they have now! If this fails, they’re alone and vulnerable and all of their struggle was for naught. We owe it to THEM to act like adults, to treat this thing seriously, to protect this community at all cost. And chasing ever-more-wild conspiracies for upcummies and clout isn’t acceptable. I’m sorry, it just isn’t.



We have to do this right. We have to be better.



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Look at this very useful french site on IQ, but there is a huge bibliography with english articles, books and sites.

It is a very efficient redpill fabric for persons who are not racists because they think races don't exist.

https://www.intelligence-humaine.com/



Julius Marteau, [04.04.20 17:39]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

it's different, but not totally different. It's linked.

You say it after "nation = the founding people of this nation = race"



Theodoric, [04.04.20 17:39]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Well then it comes down to educating the correct founding. Too many people become obfuscated in nationalism and lose that original tie to the folk that founded it.



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Arus, [04.04.20 17:38]

[In reply to T.]

Sure.



And, my French friends, I want to ask you about your viewpoint on Russian mass immigration in France in 1920s.





KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 17:40]

[In reply to Arus]

Most were traitors and dumb.

But some were top quality russians too.



T., [04.04.20 17:41]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Bolsheviks were not good to the White Russians



Anatolii Parkhomchuk, [04.04.20 17:46]

[In reply to T.]

🌝



T., [04.04.20 17:41]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Bolsheviks were not good to the White Russians





Julius Marteau, [04.04.20 17:43]

[In reply to Arus]

No idea, sorry. I lack history knowledge on every subject. France is since 1960 at least a huge place of globalism and disinformation.



So they diminish and restrict the quantity and quality of historic learning to enslave the french masses.



For example, today, the pupils don't even learn that essential fact to France and even European history that Charles Martel push the arabs at the battle of Tours (in french, Bataille de Poitiers).



Anatolii Parkhomchuk, [04.04.20 17:46]

[In reply to T.]

🌝



KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 17:43]

[In reply to Julius Marteau]

My point was that you can understand that nations are linked to their founding race without necessarily having to go deep into scientific explanation of race differences.



A normal peasant can understand that Iceland is the country of Icelanders. Even if he does not understand that there are a 0.89 correlation between race and intelligence.



Nationalism is very easy to understand. Even for normal people.



That was my point : we can be nationalists without taking so much concern on race differences. Acknowledging these differences is just a way to help our fight in highlighting the importance of genetics.



But it's just the tool to restore nations. The ultimate goal isn't to reach 100% of people believing in race differences. But to reach 100% if people understanding what nations are.



Anatolii Parkhomchuk, [04.04.20 17:46]

[In reply to T.]

🌝





Arus, [04.04.20 17:44]

I know that culture life in Paris  1920s was highly influented by Russian diaspora. We (antisoviet russians) recognise "White Emigration" as heroes, but I guess that for French nationalists  they could be just a refugees with cultural agenda.

(and some of russians in France had an impact on your own lefts. (I'm about Kojev)





K

[In reply to Arus]

Most frenchies don't even know about the White Russian Émigrés.



But for the ones who know, we only see them as some elites fleeing from their countries and living a life of luxure and pleasure in France while their country was agonizing.



But don't get me wrong, it's a bit of a cliché I guess. A lot of White Russians were deeply patriots. But we are a bit biased  as during the French Revolution the french nobility did the same, and we consider them traitors.



So, biased.



The real question is : did the White Russians came back to Russia and help it latter ?



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StormBreaker, [04.04.20 18:18]

@KL0V1S

https://twitter.com/CoralieDelaume/status/1244644205634433027





KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 18:49]

[In reply to StormBreaker]

C'est profondément stupide dans le contexte actuel. Mais pourquoi pas.



StormBreaker, [04.04.20 18:50]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Je ne fais que relayer, c'est une note interne de natixis vers ses investisseurs. C'est intéressant, ils sont au moins autant dans le flou que nous.



KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 18:59]

[In reply to StormBreaker]

Tu as raison de partager, continue à le faire.



Je faisais juste remarquer que leur analyse est complètement à l'ouest.



Régionaliser une économie ça ne se décrète pas.



Les dépenses de santé et la fin de l'austérité ça ne se décrète pas non plus.

> Quand c'est l'Etat qui paye, c'est nous qui payons.

Si nous sommes forcés d'aller vers l'austérité c'est justement parce que l'état n'a plus un rond. Parce que il y'a plus d'agents parasites que d'agents productifs dans le système économique national.



Suivez mon regard.



Meilleur exemple : le stock d'urgence de masques dissout pour financer l'AME. CQFD



Tant qu'ils ne comprendront pas que la cohésion nationale est la condition sine qua none de la réussite de n'importe  quelle politique économique (qu'elle soit interventionniste ou libérale), nous irons dans le mur.



En d'autres termes, on ne peut pas avoir le Congo-sur-Loire et Algers-sur-Alliers  tout en se targuant de vouloir plus de dépense publique.



N'importe quel plombier le sait : si le débit des utilisateurs est supérieur à la capacité de stockage et de pompage, plus personne n'a d'eau.



Pour qu'un Etat-Providence fonctionne il faut obligatoirement plus d'agents productifs que d'agents parasites.



Ou dit autrement, il faut aucun agent parasite sauf (1) les vieux, (2) les enfants. (3) les malades,éventuellement.



Sinon l'Etat providence s'auto-digère en générant de l'oisiveté et donc la destruction des agents productifs résiduels.



C'est une opinion impopulaire en France, mais tant qu'on ne comprendra pas ces fondamentaux, nous sommes condamnés à détruire par l'excès tout ce que l'on essaye d'ériger par l'effort.





T., [04.04.20 19:02]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Inaudible dans le contexte individualiste de la famille nucléaire type Hajnal



Ma grand mère m'a dit qu'elle aurait trouvé horrible de vivre avec ses propres parents pensionnés



Alors que c'était la norme pour ses propres grands-parents



On a perdu ironiquement bcp en "vivre-ensemble"



Donc aujourd'hui, l'état pallie aux insuffisances collectives:

- aider la mère célibataire au foyer

- aider le jeune travailleur (que ses propres parents refusent de loger)

- aider les vieillards

- aider les handicapés

- aider les chômeurs

Etc



Je suis surpris quand j'apprends que les familles italiennes se serrent les coudes, sans jugement de type (c'est un Tanguy) ou (c'est un loser)



Ici, on essaie de foutre à la porte sa propre famille



KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 19:09]

[In reply to T.]

C'est la réponse que je donne quand on me demande ce que je pense de l'Etat-Providence



> Les retraites

Problème réglé avec la solidarité inter-générationelle traditionnelle



> Les APL / allocations familiales

Problème réglé avec des mariages solides



> La sécurité sociale

Problème réglé dans 80% des cas en responsabilisant les gens et encourageant l'hygiénisme, le sport, etc...



Dans l'immense majorité des cas l'État Providence est une béquille qui vient compenser une paresse généralisée de la société. Un laissé aller. Une pulsion de confort.



On peut supprimer l'immense majorité de l'État par de la pédagogie et la sacralisation des corps intermédiaires.



Et les éléments restants peuvent être soit délégués (chômage à des corporations de métier) soit simplement assurés par l'Etat au minimum.



Mais l'État n'a que la place qu'on lui a laissé par individualisme. Il s'est ingéré partout où le bon sens et la solidarité nationale et familiale désertait.



Détruire l'État c'est restaurer le fonctionnement traditionnel.

Restaurer le fonctionnement traditionnel c'est de facto détruire l'Etat.



(Détruire au sens de réduire, on est d'accord).



T., [04.04.20 19:11]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]

Pour être honnête, la plupart des régimes non spéciaux ne sont même pas déficitaires



Le régime des professions libérales est très excédentaire, celui des salariés est ok



Le régime d'assurance maladie a un déficit raisonnable depuis plusieurs années



Bien sûr, leur coût sur la société est important.



J'ai du mal à concevoir les gens vivant du RSA (500€) comme des parasites,..



Ce que je reproche au système

- trop d'impôts

- injustice des régimes spéciaux

- effets dysgéniques



Mais je ne rejette pas la politique sociale en général



Idéalement, l'aide sociale devrait être locale (comme en Suisse), votée et soutenue financièrement par ses habitants.





KL0V1S Gallia Daily, [04.04.20 19:20]

[In reply to T.]

Parasite au sens économique.

Ce n'est pas un jugement moral.



Par définition quelqu'un qui vit au RSA prend plus à la société qu'il ne donne. Ce qui est anormal.



J'ai une conception assez large de la société néanmoins. Il y'a plusieurs façons d'être utiles, qui ne sont pas toutes économiques évidemment. L'impôt n'est pas un absolu.



Mais je suis d'accord sur le reste oui.



Continuons in English now 😋



T., [04.04.20 19:32]

[In reply to KL0V1S Gallia Daily]



Women are economic parasites

That's why i don't like the word parasite.